As for me, Ill see the Gods message and truth behind the text whether it literally happened or not. Combined with the singular form of et, you have one individual. It is important that Cain married a sister for the biblical narrative to make sense. I could go all day with Christian sources. These events are separated by 257 years according to biblical and secular historians such as Josephus. Therefore, technically ALL of Adams progeny was always outside the garden only Adam and Eve had ever been in the garden of Eden. I will also add that on day six, God created animals which are domesticated, wild animals and creeping animals. God "made out of one man [Adam] every nation of men to dwell on the entire surface of the earth.". 3. Earlier I showed that the male and female of Genesis 1 were the Adam and Eve of Genesis 2-5. So, yes, Adam and Eve are Biblically linked to the origin of humanity. The flood of Genesis could not be global, because God said that on day three He set a boundary for the waters, so that the earth would not return to Genesis 1:2 (Job 38:8-11; Psalm 104:5-9; Proverbs 8:27-29). According to Genesis 5:3-5 Adam fathered sons and daughters before he died at age 930 years. The Bible states emphatically that God is the same today, as yesterday, as forever in the future you wish to query. And we do know that girls/ daughter/sisters are rarely named. Cain took awan with him when he got cast out. He sends his son Tobias to collect a debt. Zakar & neqebah are generic terms. The only wife I identified of Cain is written in the banded books Eden, called The First & Second book, or The Testament of Adam & Eve. Vote Up DOUBTING IS PERMISSIBLE BUT DENIAL IS FOOLISHNESS. Twins on daytime come in many forms. Dean, God has to put a mark on his forehead, so that anyone who finds him, will not kill him. His bloodline ended with the flood. Aklia, Abels sister, that she may bear thee children, who shall replenish the By the time of Abraham, his birthplace, the advanced city of Ur in Chaldea, was a river port. Eve bore sixty-three children, thirty-two daughters, and thirty-one sons, before the default. Asa and banah refer to the action of building an object, by definition, out of existing material. Balbira & Kalmana were the respective wives and twin sisters of Abel & Cain. Although Gods Word offers wisdom and direction in the matter of marriage and sexual behavior in order to protect His children, many people are living with genetic illness, the sin of having committed incest, or the shame of victimization. He still had commanded them to fill the earth and subdue it, no matter how He felt over Abels demise. It rather depends on whether you believe that all adamic people descend literally from a single Adam-man and an Eve-woman, or whether those two are part of an allegorical story where they are metaphors for the created Adamic race as a whole. It is clear from Genesis 1:26-27 that used adam to mean mankind. The wife Cain took was one of Adams descendants. Adam and Eve arise in a completely different way than the humans of the 6. Adam and Eve werent the only people existing in the Genesis story but they were the first parents of mankind, in my own understanding of the OT, there are others who werent mentioned in the narrative of the Genesis. Where did she come from? Cain hadnt had any sisters at the time of his marriage. Thats right, so forget about all the creationistic crap about kosher genes and sibling incest and make friends with unholy preadamites, coadamites and wicked evolution (Gen. 2:4)! However, as would be predicted if the Bible is inspired by the God Who created the genome, and therefore knew of the growing dangers of incest long before humans had discovered the genome, God asserted Himself at the right time and prohibited the dangerous practice that He had previously sanctioned. No woman got the male name Adam. Gen. 5:3, 4: Adam lived on for a hundred and thirty years. info. Thank you Lord for Noah Notice that Abraham married his half sister with no condemnation from God, even though this was later forbidden. I have a Father and I came from him and I know that for sure and he has a name. However, it appears that Ms. Leiths article dovetails nicely with current evolutionary ideology. none of you shall approach to any that is near of kin to him (Leviticus 18:6). These individuals are at an increased risk for revictimization, often unconsciously, according to the website, and for them, the line between involuntary and voluntary participation in sexual behavior is blurred.. This is utter nonsense. As far as dating Adam, there is no way to limit gaps in the genealogies. I have seen various dates for M Eve and Y Adam with him coming after her. Some points to consider on CAINS WIFE. TDH writes, The Bible was not meant to be taken literally. Sez who? More evidence are accounted in the Bible. FREE ebook: Exploring Genesis: The Bibles Ancient Traditions in Context By modern legal definition, Cain would have had to commit incest with one of his sisters in order to create offspring because he had no other choice. 23 And Lamech said to his wives, "Adah and Zillah, listen to my voice. Edit: the humans gathered fruits, cabbage, seed and whathaveyou from the open expanse (Gen. 1:29). (ie man was not created but evolved). In I Corinthians 15:45, Paul tells us that the first man Adam was made a living soul. In other words, Adam was the first manthere were no other men at the beginning. Then Cain kills Abel as Seth kills Osiris In the first chapter, adam is just an appellative name for the entire mankind. Instead of loving his Abel, he did the opposite and brutally murdered his brother. The early 19th century commentator, Adam Clarke reasoned that both Cain and Abel raised families well before the birth of Seth. HAS SHE NEVER READ THE hEBREW BIBLE? Genesis 25:22-26 says, "The babies jostled each other within her, and she . Along the way he becomes ill and his brothers leave him in a cave supplied with provisions until he should recouperate. We also have no Biblical date for Adam. Her prose and poetry has previously appeared in such publications asPurposeandCreation Illustrated, and her short plays were performed at Christmas by Sunday School students for several years. . The twins were Cain (Qabil) and his sister. Thats what gets me the most about talking to people about this stuff. Personal names dont appear until the second chapter. 1:1; Jn. Cain could have married his sister or even his niece. It doesnt matter if its been a few thousand years if we all came from the same dna there will be no alteration no matter how long the time period, you know hence why people can trace their family lineages using dna. Remember that the law against close intermarriage was not given until the time of Mosese.g. Over the years the estimates of the founding human population has been falling, from millions to just hundreds. I know plenty of Scientific sources which argue young agriculture and even younger advanced civilisations, but theyre mostly in German language, because Im German. This is also called the vital soul, since the Hebrew word for vitality is hiyyut is akin to the word for beasts, hayyot. If we compare the description of the land of Eden with recent research of the middle east, during the last ice age, we find a match. Pretend everything you have ever been told from anyone the media, your parents, your church, history books, the bible pretend EVERYTHING is all a lie and then research the truth on your own and come to a conclusion based on what YOU YOURSELF conclude. April 07, 2022. Even the Big Bang theory was fathered by a preist. How can u say there is no human beings apart from Adams family? Cain's wife and brother-sister intermarriage. I agree that false teaching has lead to some murder and hate. http://in-africa.org/wp-content/uploads/2012/12/Powell-A-et-al-2009-Science-Late-Pleistocene-demography-and-the-appearance-of-modern-human-behaviour.pdf. Who would know the meaning of the sign? The preadamites were transient hunters-gatherers. Singular male and singulare female, just like Genesis 2. Mary Joan Winn Leith first explores the traditional Jewish and Christian answers that contend that the wife of Cain was another daughter of Adam and Eve. Im sorry, but I do not understand most of what you wrote. What is being asked in, Who did Cain marry? Sure, but chronologically it does not make sense. Abraham in Gen 22:2). So, Adam and Eve date back about 100,000 years. Upon recovery he leaves the cave and embarks on a kind of vision quest: The rolling rivers, mothers of the hills, brought life-saving water. day of creation. Adam and Eve had Cain and Abel we know. By the way, the fundamentals of the Big Bang are taught in the Bible: constant laws of physics, a beginning of space and time and an expanding universe. Theres a whole book a dedicated to this one begot that one. Its the Interface between the 6. and the 7. Near China. First of all, you have to know that the old Testament is the story of the Jews and not Gentiles. Here, she enjoys digging into Gods word when not working or taking part in ministry activities. Miss Weith: There is no Biblical, exegetical, case for separating the male and female in Genesis one from Adam and Eve in Genesis two. Once, when she was denied a rental car in . Also interesting is the account in Genesis 2:22-24 where God performed the first marriage between Adam and Eve. Likewise, there are no time indicators in Genesis 4, but you can compare the names and characteristics from each genealogy. Domestication arose in the end of the 6. Depensa, Instead it was a foreign woman and nothing more mentioned. IF YOU SAYCAIN GOT HIS WIFE FROM NOD TOWN OR VILLAGEREMEMBER-GOD CREATED ADAM IN HIS LIKNESS & IMAGE THEN FROM SAME ADAM GOD MADE EVE. As the curse God placed upon creation started to operate only after they sinned, their descendants would not have had many mistakes in their genes. This seems a strange thing to say given that the Old and New Testaments, as well as ancient Hebrew and Christian commentaries taught that our bodies will rise again from the dust. Abraham married his half sister ( Genesis 20:12 ); Isaac married his second cousin ( Genesis 24:15 ); and Jacob married two of his first cousins ( Genesis 28:1-7 ). These same people mock the Faith of billions of people by pretending to be open minded. Some argue that the women were not mentioned in the Old Testament so it is very possible. Its the same process of conception, precnancy and birth. 7 Then Enos grew up, married, and begat Cainan. Video lectures from world-renowned experts. The single reference to her existence is found in Genesis 4:17 Cain had relations with his wife and she conceived, and gave birth to Enoch. Cain and Abel.But also note there were other sons and daughters born to Adam and Eve. In the course of time, Cain married his twin . Its highly presumptuous to say that the Hebrew story is any more real than the Greek, Egyptian or Sumerian. Understand whats going on in the world around you and how we are controlled by 3 things: Our Governments, Our Currencies, and Our Religions. What if Cain simply had a twin sister? mother, he said not a word. And the majority doesnt count, as well. Even a venerable delusion stays a delusion. Speaking to all of us from the cross through the repentant thief Jesus promised, Today, you will be with me in Paradise. So, Cain married a HN woman. & verse 9 says, And Cain took wn his sister to be his wife and she bare him Enoch at the close of the fourth jubilee. This seems to foreshadow the blood avenger, who was usually a family member. Hi Lilith, Luluwa (also Aclima) according to some religious traditions was the oldest daughter of Adam and Eve, the twin sister of Cain and wife of Abel. AP. Consider the post Darwinian age. CB, I think that may a question that is more interesting. Cain married his own (younger) sister! At that time in human history when humans still had outstanding physical health and vitality, as indicated by the length of their lives, the likelihood of passing on defects as a result of marrying a close relative was not great. Well Always a hot bed of controversy on this site! What do the works from Sumer and Babylon have to say about Cain or Kain? Its easy to understand, after all. knew his wife means that he slept with his wife there. Anonymous. There is also the fact God had to breathe life into the newly produced body of Adam (Gen. 2:7). He took his sister along with him certainly. Adam was a devoted father and Eve a contented mother. Reading any supernatural stuff (fallen angels etc.) This also affects their witnessing to non-Christians; Third, for many non-Christians, this is a stumbling block hindering them from believing that they can trust the Bible as being a true record of history, from the first book, Genesis, onwards. Theres no ceramist manner when God forms a human. Did Cain have children? Blue Letter Bible, "Where Did Cain Get His Wife?" This was not breath after birth, for the Bible refers to humans as alive in the womb (Genesis 25:26; Hosea 12:3). I've been re-reading the pragmatic genesis series. 6 But when he was twenty years of age, he begat a son, whom he called Enos; Meanwhile he became father to sons and daughters. (One of Adams sons was Cain, and one of Adams daughters must have become Cains wife. It has been suggested that the vicinity of Beer Lachai Roi (Well of the Seeing One) where the angel appeared to Hagar, had become a shrine to which Isaac visited when he was meditating (suach) in the field in Genesis 24:62 (Meditation and the Bible, by Aryeh Kaplan, p.101). Genesis 4:1-2a states, "Now Adam knew Eve his wife, and she conceived and bore Cain, saying, "I have gotten a man with the help of the Lord." And again, she bore his brother Abel." You mean Moses said gather round the fire kiddies and I will reveal some naughty stories about the first men and women to live after creation? The All-Access membership pass is the way to get to know the Bible through biblical archaeology. Cain married of of his elder brothers daughter. to the fountain of Lamneth. The en- prefix in En-och tells us he was a king in that city as that prefix means king. in both Akkadian and Sumerian. Furthermore, they were offered as potential victims of abuse by their father in place of the angels who had visited his home (Genesis 19:8). Academy Award winner Rami Malek 's twin brother works as a teacher, for example . Have a great day. WHERE HE DWELT AFTER LEAVING GODS PRESENCE WAS NAMED AFTER HIM, THE LAND OF WANDERER. Perhaps Cain had just thrown together his sacrifice, or maybe deliberately offered the stunted and blighted portions of his crops to the Lord. Here we must rely on general revelation. When Cain went into the land of Nod and took a wife, he married a Gentile, of which there were many in the land outside of Eden. They also had boats falling off the edge of the earth if you sailed too close the the edge, when their world was flat. The only possible answer is that Cain's wife was his sister or niece or great-niece, etc. God brought all creatures to Adam to name, but none of them were a suitable helper for him, so God created the first woman. All Genesis 4:17 says is that after leaving the land of Eden, Cain and his wife had children. I hope that BAS will stop printing science fiction and start using people that read and believe the bible, not obscure theologians. The sons and daughters of Adam and Eve come AFTER Seth. Does the devil have power to make us sick? The Kool-aid always works, doesnt it? 3 2. And he lacked seventy years of one thousand years; for one thousand years are as one day in the testimony of the heavens and therefore was it written concerning the tree of knowledge: On the day that ye eat thereof ye shall die. For this reason he did not complete the years of this day; for he died during it. 4 But when our father Adam saw them around him, he wept at having to be But I must add, The foolishness of God is wiser than the wisdom of manit would take us entering the raw presence of God to seek His counsel. MediaPunch Inc/Alamy Stock Photo. 1 response Do not be controlled by words that confine your mind. Cain had a twin sister, and he said unto him: To me, the understanding of the first family is in the connection God had with them, and not whether or not there was another first family somewhere, or physical incest. Also the used verbs of the first chapter (asah, bara) have completely different meanings as those (jatzar, banah) of the second one. There were def other for the lack of a better term, people on the earth then besides Adam eve Cain and Abel. Next up, the animal souls (Gen. 1.21) and last but not least the human intelligence (NOT the human by itself (Gen. 1.26; asah means the preparation from preexisting material) and other human characteristics (image if God; Gen. 1.27). mmmh thats interesting.never thought closely the story of Cain.thanks for revelation. The same verb in Gen. 2.7 is also used in Jer. Yet, no daughters of Noah were mentioned or saved. I have only seen one verse which uses even the word by itself in the context of knowledge. So brothers and sisters (Adam and Eves children) could have married and not had the problems of deformities in their offspring as might well happen today, if such close relatives married and had children. Far too many wars have been fought in the name of religious intolerance. Our God doesnt agree with incest. Since she would be a bastard, there would be no problem them to heading off together to Nod/Land of Wandering, starting the Cain/Jew lineage. It is all myth. This unique marital state once graced the world and, as proposed above, continued to the time of Abraham, after which it ended. Why? well that was a lot of side stepping for a very clear cut passage. In Hebrew, it means: YHWH Elohim formed Adam, (he was) dust from the ground; in the meaning of Adam WAS dust from the ground (Gen. 3.19). With Adam and Eve out of the garden, all activities were outside the garden. 54 So he is got got married to one of his sister. http://in-africa.org/wp-content/uploads/2012/12/Powell-A-et-al-2009-Science-Late-Pleistocene-demography-and-the-appearance-of-modern-human-behaviour.pdf, Bovid Domestication? So the serpent came crawling because the angels free will was tested first. Adam was formed out of the literal dust from the ground and when he died he would return to that dust/ground, not to a womb. 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