9320791246045. eBay Product ID (ePID) 1160911604. There was a six-month delay. Although Fords 200/3.3-litre alternative was 19bhp/14kW down on power compared to the X2, its peak power arrived 200rpm earlier. DOUGLAS CarsMore info $ 25 Holden HR wagon right rear taillight In good used condition has pitting and one broken tab as pictured BASIN POCKET Car partsMore info $ 55 And you can also contact one of our team members direct to ask further questions about the car before bidding. Any improvement in braking performance was therefore absorbed by the extra work dictated by the HDs extra weight over the front wheels, the weight transfer also adding to the self-steering rear end under brakes. Its transmission always leaked slightly and the underside was very well protected by a nice layer of automatic transmission fluid. The results would become obvious at the petrol bowser and stop watch, along with the big increase in weight. Unless the optional front disc brakes were ordered, the standard brakes with 124 sq in/800 cm sq swept area versus the XP Falcons 131/845 and the Valiants 153.5/990 were a cause for concern after all engines were significantly upgraded. Much was made of Holdens new method of attaching the HDs rear axle to the leaf springs with plates instead of U-bolts for extra security and refinement but the stock sedans four leaf rear springs faced with the combination of all the above, left the HD with a chronic rear steer problem. The latter was accused of essentially being a wide-bodied EH with more power, and a rather unattractive one at that. The front parking lights also left a substantial area on either side unaccounted for. Both my kids drive it and they have HDs of their own my son has a sedan and my daughter a wagon. Please be advised that when purchasing a vehicle from auction you do not receive Statutory Warranty or Cooling-Off Period, The HR Premier X2 would have to be the most collectable pre 68 Holden ever produced, along with the EH/S4 . For the factory to go down this track without parallel developments in suspension, transmission and brakes, it could only be seen as a desperate move, which it was. More items related to this product. Located in our Sydney Showroom. Please register and log-in to see an overview of items you are bidding on. The solution was to raise the body relative to the floor, so the floor could be flattened to reduce the transmission tunnel and side sills. Google Search. Period), it will be extended until there are no successful bids within the "Refresh Period".There is no limit to the number of times an online auction can be extended. Please note: All vehicles are sold unregistered and the number plates will be removed. Long before being regarded as a classic just a Holden in horrible black. 1984 Holden WB Statesman DeVille mkII V8 Sedan. As with standard auction practice, the vehicles may be inspection and started during inspection but not driven. A load of spares and the race car trailer along with the wider tyres on this example would have cut the usual body sway dramatically. justcars.com.au 26 days ago Report Ad 4 Pictures Connecting rod forgings have bigger web sections for increased big-end strength. For growing families, a Studebaker Lark Cruiser, compact Fairlane and a comprehensive Rambler range were now accessible enough locally to eat into Holden sales. Download with images Print Pricelist General Condition for age and kilometres: The below condition assessment is the opinion of our booking staff which may differ from your own opinion: Sale is on As is Where is basis. It was an absolute mongrel to get off, but it did help preserve the underside. The X2 bonus was Holdens first set of auxiliary gauges including water temperature, ammeter and oil pressure but no tacho. Where the EH bodyside crease line rested on the top of the front wheel arch, the HDs was significantly above the wheel arch yet these lines on both cars ended at almost the same level relative to the headlights. Its been to every state in Australia, except the Northern Territory, often with a trailer behind it always had a towbar, until now. These assets are used therefore inspection is highly recommended prior to bidding, description & photos should be used as a guide only. Although the new lighting arrangements made the HR harder to see at night and the front indicators/parking lights no longer marked the extremities, consolidating everything in the grille took the eye away from what was still a triple-storey front. UPC. It disguised what had been done to the EH with such success that the true cost of the HDs extra space was not noticed until the car had left the showrooms: One way to make a car look good is to have a roof that is nowhere near as wide as the belt line, but you reach a point where you hit your head on the side glass as it slopes into the narrow roof. Ask questions and Inspect the vehicle - our Auto team can be reached on 1300 252 7742 or email . Please refer to the individual lot description for asset condition. Provide suitably qualified personnel to remove their lots. . Please ensure you clearly read the special terms and conditions contained in this page and also in the bidders agreement. Car. If there was a legend that emerged from the flawed HD/HR series, it was the stock 186 engine, not the X2. It didnt help that Holdens 2.4-litre starting point was closer to the old school Austin Freeway. He was in the process of trading it on a Falcon GT when I saw him at Gregorys Motors on a very cold July Canberra morning in 1977. The best thing to come out of the HD was the HR, and the end to Holden complacency. For Sale. Thank you Condition: Used, For Sale by: Private Seller, Type of Title: Clear (most titles), Manufacturer: Holden, Model: Ute, Transmission: Manual, Fuel Type: Petrol, Doors: 2, Colour: Cream PicClick Insights - Fj Holden Ute PicClick Exclusive RRP $770 $174.00 fortnightly and receive your order now. It is a condition of entry that all persons entering the site comply with any directions given by GraysOnline staff, their representatives or the site controller. It happens. It was a special order car which he could have instead, which he jumped at. To compensate for the loss of a ratio at the top end, the Powerglide was given the taller 3.36 final drive of the previous EH manuals, but this required more torque-converter slip with increased fuel consumption to cover the loss of a ratio at lower speeds. Manufacturer Part Number. Its a family heirloom and wont be going anywhere. More importantly, that left the HRs new stock single-carburettor 186 to achieve what the X2 couldnt. The XM Falcon could be ordered with a 170/2.8 Pursuit or 200/3.3 Super Pursuit and the Valiants base engine was the 225/3.7 slant six. From side-on, they were shaped to match the re-worked front guards. Which is exactly what happened in this case. Twin 2" SU's. TO4B turbo. The longer story is that the three speed manual without synchromesh on first and the two-speed Powerglide automatic were still there. Time capsule HR Holden 161 in absolutely day one unrestored rust free condition with only 67,200 miles on the clock since 1966. "Smoother performance and a gearbox that's a delight to use add refreshing variety to the Holden stable," Livingstone enthused.The combination of the 145hp (108kw) 186S engine and the four-on-the-floor transmission was available in all HR Holdens except commercials.The 186S could be specified in a ute or van,but not the transmission.Deemed a Any item that is remaining uncollected within a suitable time frame will be deemed abandoned. Note how the bumper is flanged at the trailing edge to create room for the extra length of the previous scoops now absorbed by the headlight surround, The HR Special featured new Sadlon seat trim, Just how big the HD/HR body was for its short wheelbase, narrow track and tiny wheels can be seen in this shot. With 523,310 miles on the clock it was very tired. The story of this car starts with what may seem like a familiar theme: owner Denis French swears he just went out for a coffee, and he came home with a car. Motorcycle Insurance, and GraysOnline guarantee that all vehicles/boats/motorbikes in this sale are sold with clear title. Hr Holden Premier for sale - March 2023 Cars for Sale Holden Holden Premier Hr Holden Premier for sale 1 - 24 of 14,652 used cars Hr Holden Premier for sale Sort by Save your search 6 Pictures 1967 holden premier hr sedan 2753, Richmond Lowlands, Hawkesbury $ 23,000 1967 200,000 Km white 186 mech good, minor rust spots, drives well. They had the same venturi diameter as 149/161 as well which is stamped on the side of the main carburettor body and will be 1 3/32. It was an indication of how much the HD body had been raised relative to the floor and suspension. Add to Cart. Any outstanding finance is cleared by GraysOnline and the relevant financier, all vehicles will be sold unencumbered. We do our best to honestly report the condition of each vehicle; however the Vehicle Description is based on an external walk around and engine start-up. 85amp alternator holden 6cyl & v8 ,commodore v8 vl vn vp vr vn $235* vic, 3076. Excludes Administrative Fees and any Credit Card / PayPal surcharges that will apply. It was very reliable. GST is included in the buyers premium. The balance of a new car warranty will also apply to vehicles sold at auction. Sale description is a guide only as vehicle may have unsighted damage/issues. Charges 123,456 km Sedan Automatic 6cyl 179L Petrol Check car history Private Seller Car SA Contact seller View details 13 Compare 1965 Holden HD Special HD Manual $69,000* Excl. It had to accommodate three full-size adults across the front and rear seats while maintaining up to nine inches/229mm of ground clearance on the same skinny track and short wheelbase of the EH. This information will be provided in the vehicle description. But thats another story. This is to suit a powerglide automatic HR or HD Holden with twin carbies. The recurring question in road tests at the time was why it was not given the transmissions, brakes and handling to match the extra power. As a percentage, the rise from the 2468lb/1120kg EH to the 2603lb/1182kg of the HD was significant given that the suspension had not changed. And Holden engineers still struggled to get the X2s extra carburettor to work, hence the claimed increase of only 5bhp/3.7kW, not the 14bhp/10kW and 11bhp/8.2kW boosts of the single-carburettor engines. Yet it was still thirsty and not much fun to drive as your knuckles collided with the dash top if you tackled the stiff column shift with any gusto. The only truly modern advance in this shot of the HDs X2 engine was the alternator now standard in the HD range. The HDs sweep inwards and forwards. (Photo from, By logging in via Facebook or Google, you consent to Facebook or Google sharing your information with Shannons. The problem was the Nike swoosh-type badge was not reversed and looked like it was heading in the wrong direction on the drivers side. These final drive changes were also undermined by the HDs weight increase, a full 135lbs/60kg at HD Special level and an average of 150lbs/67.5kg for the HD Wagon. Should I get more information about the car before I bid? The Premier interior with bucket seats and centre console is special. The HDs sales of 178,927 units may have been the envy of Ford and Chrysler but were a disaster for an all new body compared to the 256,959 for the EH and 252,352 for the HR, both facelifts. Typically, auctions are over at their posted times. The heavily-raked D-pillars, essential for the wagon not to look like a hearse, along with the switch to wind-down tail gate glass, generated. Please note that the vehicles can be started, but not driven. Charges 76,530 km Sedan Manual 6cyl X2L Petrol Check car history Private Seller Car SA Product Identifiers. The HD's sales of 178,927 units may have been the envy of Ford and Chrysler but were a disaster for an all new body compared to the 256,959 for the EH and 252,352 for the HR, both facelifts. A quick respray and fresh seats, back in the early-1990s. Alaska. It reflects the opinion of Grays book-in staff which accounts for the vehicles age and distance travelled, which may differ from your opinion. It is condition of entry that all persons conduct themselves in a manner which does not endanger the health and safety of other persons onsite and which does not create a risk to health and safety, Must walk in designated walkways until you enter car park where general car park rules apply, All children under the age of 15 must be accompanied by an adult and supervised at all times, A valid drivers license is required in order to obtain keys, Anyone found driving vehicles will have the keys taken off them, have their licensed returned and asked to leave the premises, GraysOnline will specify, according to the hazards and risks assessed as present on the site, any mandatory PPE required to be worn prior gaining approval to entry to the site. Sale of this vehicle in an auction context is on an as is, where is basis. FJ FX (48/215) HOLDEN; FE FC HOLDEN; FB EK HOLDEN; EJ EH HOLDEN; . That innovation was famously publicised with a stunt where an HR was suspended over a Vauxhall Viva, secured by a single seatbelt. The resulting criticism was unprecedented for a Holden. Seller's Description. Watch this Holden HR Special Wagon Commercial:http://aso.gov.au/titles/ads/holden-saturday-kind-of-car/clip1/. This left the 186 X2 between a rock and a hard place. Weight distribution deteriorated in a car already under fire for its unbalanced handling and braking. Fully engineered and currently registered in South Australia, this purposely built custom HR can comfortably be driven with confidence. (Please Click on Part Number to Purchase Product.) The following day Bill Mitchell would explode and insist on them being returned. I did numerous drawings showing how curved side glass that simply winds into a door with the same curve could free up all this extra space inside.. These two devices created the illusion that the HD grille was at least as sleek as the EH except the frontal area above and below had increased. This is probably the most honest of all the ads as the HD/HR Station Sedans as Holden called them really were a Saturday Kind of Car providing no one was in a hurry and there were kids and stuff to shift. 3. Its engine is a naturally aspirated petrol, 3 litre, overhead valve 6 cylinder with 2 valves per cylinder. Ill take it on trips, such as the nationals at Dubbo a couple of years ago. Classic cars reviewed by one of Australia's most knowledgable motoring journalists. If you intend to send a Third Party to collect your goods on your behalf, you need to send them with a copy of your Winners E-mail and Signed Note of Authority permitting GraysOnline staff to release your purchases to the third party. Show More Show Less. SKU: 47209. All storage fees must be made payable before the vehicle will be released. In an attempt to cover the X2s loss of flexibility and allow it to get on the cam at lower speeds, Holden specified the EH autos short 3.55:1 rear axle ratio for the manual but that also meant it was working harder, more of the time. For Sale: 1967 HR Holden X2 turbo with methanol injection Josh Bennis August 30, 2012 If a good ol' Holden motorcar is what you're after, then this 1967 HR Holden X2 might take your fancy. Holden, an Australian car maker with roots stretching back to the mid-19th Century, is . The HD had 2 separate engine pipes all the way to the front muffler whereas all of the others had a Y-pipe which will not fit up to the HD headers. Grays does not test drive the vehicle or test its inclusions. Body 4-door wagonEngine 186 K-block engine, dual carburetorsPower & torque 108kW @ 4600rpm, 249Nm @ 2200rpmPerformance 0-100km/h 14 seconds (auto)Top speed 170km/h Transmission two-speed PowerglideSuspension: Front independent coils,Rear live axle, leaf sperings.Brakes f/r disc/drum. The door handles are original. Pricelists HOLDEN HR HOLDEN View All Price Lists HOLDEN HR HOLDEN Rare Spares Restoration, Spare Parts & Accessories Price List as at 28/02/2023 Prices include GST and are subject to change without notice. Home Insurance products for motoring enthusiasts who drive imported, modified, classic, veteran or vintage cars. Just Cars is the place for classic, vintage and unique cars. There were lots of family holidays over time. Just how deep was exposed by the amount of sheet metal between the top of the front wheels and the front guards. Its prefix is 179X. In a desperate bid to provide a context for the HDs kidney slicers, Holden imported an Oldsmobile Toronado, a car that quickly distinguished itself by its reluctance to stop, just like the HD. Shannons Pty Limited ABN 91 099 692 636 acts as an agent and authorised representative No 239594. There was also a deep panel below the front bumper, eliminated on an increasing number of 1965 models. This not only moved the transmission forward to further reduce centre tunnel height, it also created more legroom at the firewall. WB STATESMAN DEVILLE HOLDEN NICE CONDITION. Call Shannons Insurance on 13 46 46 to get a quote today. He remembers the HD brief well. Meanwhile the whole Holden versus Ford battle was hotting up. Description & Photos are to be used as a guide only - Inspection recommended, (GST Not Applicable on Item, See below note). Although Holden used the Oldsmobile Toronado and rival Lincoln Continental to validate the HDs kidney-slicers as the latest and greatest from the US in its sales training material, they could never work on the HD when the bonnet and scuttle were so high. Yet after the new 186 was re-engineered as the single twin-throat carburettor 186S in mid-1967 and the first Holden with an automatic choke, it actually delivered the claimed X2 power increases. It was no contest, especially as the HRs heavy understeer and axle tramp were still issues. And so it would go on. No other warranties will be provided. 1984 Holden WB Statesman DeVille mkII V8 Sedan. Yet the X2s 140bhp power claim was an essential advertising tool to maintain Holden credibility before anyone even optioned it. David, you are forgetting about the HD 179 X2, there were probably similar numbers built compared to the HR X2. Once assets are removed the transaction between GraysOnline and the bidder is deemed complete. Because a new Special badge appeared ahead of the HRs front wheel arch above the bodyside strip, the X2 badge looked neater sitting beneath the strip behind the front wheel arch. 2019 Honda HR-V VTi-S MY19 for sale in Caboolture. 2015 bmw 2 series f23 220i sport line 8 sp sports automatic 2d convertible $36,990* vic, 3026. If youre registering the vehicle in the name of a company or organisation you will need to also provide proof that it is a legal entity. As conservative X2 drivers sat with their pedal to the metal waiting for their engines to climb out of the hole between the two ratios, the X2s extra carburetor would pour more fuel down the exhaust for a big boost in fuel consumption. Thats right miles! (SOLD) Mackay, Queensland The stock 186s lift in capacity and compression ratio boosted torque to 181 lb ft/244Nm at 1600rpm, which was not only better than the 179 X2s but much more accessible given the ongoing limitations of both transmissions. Although horsepower was important, engine flexibility, fuel economy and low maintenance were still big priorities. Latest News. Rare Spares. Log In / Join Log In Join. It was in Braddon, inner city, Id gone down there to get a coffee from Collins Bakery that was about four doors up from Gregorys and was just walking back to my car to head home. Assets can be collected on Monday to Friday, 8:30am to 4:00pm. Shannons agrees to use this information in accordance with the. Govt. The information needed is: Take the guess work out of buying a car and get a pre purchase inspection so you can buy with confidence. (Please Click on Part Number to Purchase Product.) Brand. That was good for 145 horses (108kW), or a solid 20 more than the standard 186. Important information about the sale of the vehicle. Invoice totals exceeding $10,000 will not be split. More Images. GraysOnline staff are onsite for security purpose only, please make sure you have people to help you load your purchases and provide suitable transport. If you wish to arrange a 3rd party inspection with RACQ, State Roads or a Mechanic, please call 1300 064 978 to speak to a member of the Auto Team. 1966 Holden HR Premier X2 Body 4-door wagon Engine 186 K-block engine, dual carburetors Power & torque 108kW @ 4600rpm, 249Nm @ 2200rpm Performance 0-100km/h 14 seconds (auto) Top speed 170km/h Transmission two-speed Powerglide Suspension: Front - independent coils, Rear live axle, leaf sperings. nsw, 2444. The X2 could only strut its stuff if driven by a driver capable of double de-clutching into first then revving the engine until the hydraulic lifters floated and lost the plot in the absence of a tacho. Fortunately there wasnt a lot of rust, but there was a lot of wear through age. Just to clear up some confusion, the rear section you have labelled 'X2' will only fit the HD 179 X2. Its well-preserved, but the old HR still gets out for the odd long trip. Many more photos will be available soon. The terms and conditions of the online auctions may change from time to time. It could be felt as soon as you drove out of the showroom, especially by rear seat passengers. Uncap Your Next Favourite Wine at a Steal |. Turbocharged 179. It looked as though it had been engineered properly with a higher lift camshaft that increased valve overlap and lengthened intake and exhaust segments and a twin branch exhaust system with separate pipes from the twin exhaust headers to the engine side of the muffler. Purchasers cannot pick up until full invoice is paid. RRP $690 $627 Make 4 interest-free payments of $156.75 fortnightly and receive your order now. Please note that cash, personal or company cheques will not be accepted. HQ rear Drum. Cars For Sale. Bids on assets in this sale should be made based on your inspection and assessment of the assets. Hr Holden Premier. (Sat Nav) - ISOFIX Child Seat Anchors (x2) - Shark Fin Antenna - Climate Control Auto Air Con - Dual Front Airbags Package, Head Airbags, . There were two undesirable consequences. Only the feather-footed could better a 20mpg/14L/100km average. The only big change was moving the C-pillar to the extremities of the lower panels for a bigger rear screen. All lots have pictures assigned to them. As a futuristic design from a GM experimental studio in Detroit, the HD launched in February 1965 had the right pedigree until Holden attempts to anticipate local market sensitivities were overruled. However, there may be other damage, mechanical issues or body blemishes that have not been sighted or contained in our assessment.We always recommend a full inspection, by yourself, a 3rd party (such as RACQ or State Roads) or a qualified mechanic. Protect your Holden. The upward shift in power and torque peaks left a bigger hole between ratios with both transmissions. Sadly the crane driver may have been a little clumsy and the belt snapped, resulting in one flattened Viva. If classed as 'Used' the asset may have experienced moderate to heavy usage by consumers and have not been tested to ensure that they function according to the manufacturer's specifications. Its fuel economy was a full 25 per cent better than the HDs 179 X2 and good enough for Valiant owners to question whether they really needed their cars bigger and thirstier engine. Vehicle inspection is based on walk-around and start-up only and is the opinion of the Booking-In Officer. I just loved the black station wagon and the X2 option sold it to me. Borg Warner Diff. The HD sales tally does not tell the story of the initial sales spurt that followed the EHs long 1963-65 model life then a collapse as HD shortfalls were revealed. GST Note: GST will not be added to, or included in, the final bid price of this item. Providing you ticked the disc brake option and fitted a decent set of radial tyres, it was the best of the HD/HR series. Holden HR Ute for sale Sort by Save your search 8 Pictures 1967 holden hr utility 3500, Mildura, Victoria $ 31,500 1967 120,500 Km red Reluctant Sale - Unregistered This Ute was been Shedded for some 10 years now.
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